L.A. City Council racist audio leak, transcribed and annotated

Kevin de León
Yeah, I do know what you’re saying. And never good. Unlawful however, then he’s nonetheless serving to the youngsters versus that little entitled privileged prince, Sebastian Ridley-Thomas.

Ron Herrera
Oh, I feel in all probability he hooked it up for sure individuals.

Nury Martinez
She’s so cute. I can’t imagine you’re on this stage of your life, by the way in which.

Gil Cedillo
I do know. I did my interview the opposite day and she or he mentioned…

Nury Martinez
’Tas loco con esta niña. (You’re loopy for that woman.)

Gil Cedillo
I’m a grandfather, and I’ve a 47-year-old son, and a 2 ½-year-old little woman.

Nury Martinez
She’s so cute.

Kevin de León
Your 47-year-old son appears to be like like he’s 37.

Nury Martinez
Her genes.

Kevin de León
Yeah, her genes. Take a look at Gil, her genes.

Gil Cedillo
Let’s go Dodgers.

Nury Martinez
You want all that stuff. I didn’t actually look after… I am going that complete little child shit. Thank God for my husband who wished a child, so I’m like, it wasn’t … I used to be OK.

Gil Cedillo
Take a look at these curls. You want these curls?

Nury Martinez
It took me eight years to have a child. To persuade me to have a child, I ought to say.

Gil Cedillo
I do know you want these curls.

Ron Herrera
Naturally.

Nury Martinez
[Inaudible] loves powerful ladies. Not whiny little children. She powerful? I really like powerful children.

Gil Cedillo
Oh dude, this woman is, she’s the boss.

Nury Martinez
You’re crying…

Gil Cedillo
She’s the boss of her faculty. She’s the one one who walks in not [inaudible]. She walks in and places her backpack…

Nury Martinez
With authority, that’s proper.

Gil Cedillo
Will get her stuff. Goes sits in her place. She’s like, in cost.

Speaking South L.A.

Nury Martinez
So in any case, you didn’t join with Curren? He referred to as me final evening. Oh, you probably did join with Curren. ¿Y tu? (And also you?) Did you join with Curren?

Gil Cedillo
We talked earlier. Yeah.

Councilmember Curren Worth represents District 9, which covers a part of South L.A.

(Francine Orr / Los Angeles Instances)

Nury Martinez
Curren is taking the temperature of the council, in all probability at Mark’s request. I feel Mark is aware of form of the course that the council’s gonna head in. And he’s attempting to take the temperature. I feel they’re getting two issues blended up. I feel they’re getting the entire resignation piece, with the suspension piece — that these wires are being crossed in it. And I don’t know if Curren’s the proper particular person to clarify issues to … the place he’s half asleep. So I used to be doing my greatest, I used to be doing my greatest final evening to clarify that the method we took with Jose was one in all suspension. It doesn’t mess along with his paycheck and he can nonetheless accumulate a paycheck. It’s not on us.

Kevin de León
That’s Ron Galperin.

Nury Martinez
That’s what I informed him: You must go speak to that white man. It’s not us. It’s the white members on this council that can motherfuck you in a heartbeat. So he began naming names. You recognize you bought it, you already know who it’s. [City Atty.] Mike Feuer’s gonna fuck with this. Galperin’s gonna fuck with this. [City Councilmember] Bob Blumenfield is gonna fuck with with this. Most likely [City Councilmember] Paul [Krekorian]. That’s what they do.

Kevin de León
It’s the exact same, uh, after I was within the Senate, after they had the entire shit go down with Tony Mendoza.

Nury Martinez
The place is that man?

Kevin de León
In Artesia?

Nury Martinez
I by no means acquired together with him.

Kevin de León
When the entire thing went down with after I walked into the caucus, and so they acquired all of the members there, like clockwork, all of the white members, “Come, proper now.” Like, that is about transparency. And that is about justice, authorized. And I mentioned, “There’s not likely a authorized subject right here, you already know, there’s no criminality subject. There’s only a harassment subject.” The individuals of shade have been extra like, “He’s not responsible, he’s not being charged by the U.S. legal professional, district legal professional, no legal professional. It’s extra of an inner harassment coverage subject.” And it was very fascinating, to Nury’s level, the white people reduce you in a heartbeat.

Nury Martinez
With authorities.

Kevin de León
After which when it’s them, they found out some shit, learn how to like you already know—

Nury Martinez
They get a PR agency.

Kevin de León
Yeah.

Nury Martinez
They get one of the best attorneys within the, within the metropolis to defend them and spin their bullshit. In order that’s why I informed Curren final evening, I mentioned, I feel we have to be cautious with that. It’s not us, it’s not Gil, it’s not, effectively what about Kevin and Gil? I am going, they’re not saying something about that, about his paycheck, about resigning. No, simply go deal with your shit, go. Go deal with your online business and hopefully all of it works out.

Ron Herrera
Wow, yeah, you, um…

Nury Martinez
I’m not going to trash him within the paper both, as a result of that’s the opposite factor that we’re apprehensive about.

Ron Herrera
It’s best to—

Nury Martinez
Actually, I’d in all probability do the other. Good luck. I hope he will get exonerated, undergo the authorized course of, verdad? Go increase your $2 million you’re gonna must struggle this. Properly, that’s the opposite factor that I informed you, my, my buddy who was a former prosecutor who was really head of that division…

Kevin de León
Of the corruption unit?

Nury Martinez
And so, referred to as him, he’s a superb buddy now. He, he mentioned to me, about the entire name, this complete factor’s gonna work out. He’s like, there’s no, there’s no path right here for him. They acquired him.

Ron Herrera
They wouldn’t have, they wouldn’t, they wouldn’t have moved on him had they not.

Nury Martinez
He additionally informed me that the college is cooperating. Extensively. He is aware of sufficient concerning the case as a result of he’s acquired mates who, contained in the U.S. legal professional’s workplace, who’re working the case and the college is. I’ve a sense that one in all, after I learn the indictment, this girl was, ’staba así (she was like that), far and wide.

Kevin de León
The dean.

Nury Martinez
Ya. Hablando, diciéndole (Speaking, telling her). Hear, that is going to occur proper? And any individual in her workplace or any individual in that division or any individual—

Kevin de León
Leaked it.

Mark Ridley-Thomas was suspended from the Los Angeles Metropolis Council after he was accused of receiving bribes from a USC dean when he was serving on the L.A. County Board of Supervisors.

(Dania Maxwell / Los Angeles Instances)

Nury Martinez
Sure! And began compiling all of the emails, knew concerning the textual content messages, knew concerning the letter, that handwritten letter that she wrote to Mark. The contract. However it wasn’t in writing. It was a handwritten contract. That is what you’re agreeing to do, and I’m going to do that. The U.S. district legal professional, the U.S. legal professional’s workplace has a duplicate of the letter.

Kevin de León
So my U.S. legal professional buddy mentioned this too. My U.S. legal professional buddy mentioned the next Saturday evening, he mentioned, “What could be very attention-grabbing right here too is, not simply MRT [Mark Ridley-Thomas] however USC themselves.” He says that USC did a preemptive strike by going to the U.S. legal professional’s workplace instantly.

Nury Martinez
Is that this when Caruso despatched a letter to have this investigated?

Kevin de León
I don’t know.

Nury Martinez
Caruso is the one which… Do not forget that?

Kevin de León
So, however he says, however the dean herself, this 83-year-old girl, was performing on behalf of the college when it comes to doing something and all the pieces she will be able to to lift cash. On this case for her division of social work. And one may argue, she says that if I’m the lawyer for the dean of the — la viejita — I’m turning on Mark. She’s gonna most definitely activate Mark. That every one she was attempting to do is increase cash for, for USC. And he says, however despite the fact that USC has finished a preemptive strike by contacting the feds and cooperating, collaborating, the query turns into — it’s like should you’re, say should you’re Exxon, an oil firm, and also you dedicated all of those, these unlawful acts and then you definately go to the Division of Justice and say, “Hey, we simply came upon from a whistleblower from inside our, you already know, ranks that this occurs,” he says it’d be actual attention-grabbing if the, if the U.S. legal professional thought possibly, possibly not, no, goes after USC, too. So I suppose you may go like that means too. They go after USC too. However he believes that the girl, la viejita, will activate—

Nury Martinez
She Black?

Kevin de León
No, a little white woman.

Nury Martinez
I used to be looking for an image. I didn’t discover a image. You assume they’ll plea out?

Ron Herrera
Oh yeah.

Nury Martinez
I feel we’ll know extra, guys, after Wednesday, when he goes and will get arraigned after which they’ve his emails.

Gil Cedillo
Right here’s, right here’s the issue for all of them. Every little thing the girl did was clear. Like, “I informed you, proper, I’m gonna come right here and I’m gonna do that. Kevin, I’m gonna do that. That is what we’re doing. That is from college.” So she’s performing…

Kevin de León
On behalf of the…

Gil Cedillo
Of the group. And the college bets it out they’ve acquired a thousand legal professionals they’ve [inaudible] a ton of legal professionals [inaudible].

Nury Martinez
What else can go on at that college, man. They acquired a cochino gynecologist that was molesting children for 20-something years.

Kevin de León
Received the dean caught in…

Gil Cedillo
Carmen.

Nury Martinez
Yeah. You bought, you even have that tuition or no matter, admittance, the school admissions case the place you’ve acquired the youngsters. That actress whose daughter…

Kevin de León and Gil Cedillo
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nury Martinez
… was on the yacht.

Kevin de León
There’s one which Caruso despatched…

Nury Martinez
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Despatched a helicopter to get the child off the yacht within the Bahamas. Shit, what a life, huh?

Kevin de León
They actually went after it. I used to be with Gene Block yesterday from UCLA and we’re at this occasion for the Chinese language bloodbath, at UCLA. They’re actually combative. … When the L.A. Instances will get a bug up their ass, you already know, they similar to… So I talked to Sam Garrison the opposite day, who’s the GR [government representative], he reviews on to Carol Folt.

Nury Martinez
The son of Jim Garrison?

Kevin de León
Yeah, the son of Jim Garrison. He informed me {that a} couple of reporters acquired Pulitzer Prizes.

Nury Martinez
For the investigation?

Kevin de León
For the investigation. That what they’re doing has legs, simply hold it going, simply hold it going, simply hold it going.

On L.A. political scandals

Nury Martinez
David Z. informed me final week — I didn’t need to speak to him. I simply was like, “I don’t need to get quoted on all this shit, however what would you like?” He’s like — you already know the Feds are leaking shit to David, in order that he may write about it. That fucking little piece of shit. And he’s like, “I simply wished you to know, or do you know that there was extra incriminating proof towards Mark?” I mentioned, “No, how would I do know? As a matter of truth I don’t need to know. So I’ll speak to you later.” I’m uncomfortable with this dialog. I don’t know why you’re telling me this shit.

Ron Herrera
Like county stuff too.

Nury Martinez
So [Los Angeles County Supervisor] Hilda [Solis] referred to as. You recognize he used to fuck with Hilda so much. Hilda is like, I am going, “Properly, I get it Hilda, pero cuidate (however watch out), as a result of, I imply, have been you voting on this shit too?”

Kevin de León
Hilda must be cautious.

Nury Martinez
That’s what I mentioned. I mentioned, I have to be cautious, as a result of no matter…

Kevin de León
She was underneath FBI investigation.

Nury Martinez
No matter you begin to, no matter onion you’re beginning to peel, I imply…

Kevin de León
Do you know that?

Nury Martinez
Nah, I didn’t know that.

Nury Martinez
I suppose all of us have, huh?

Kevin de León
She was underneath FBI investigation. [inaudible] I do know as a result of the FBI visited me.

Nury Martinez
I suppose all of us have.

Kevin de León
And he or she doesn’t know in any case these instances.

Nury Martinez
Yo no se (I don’t know), however I suggested her que tuviera cuidado (to watch out). And he or she’s, she doesn’t even know if she’s acquired the votes for tomorrow. She’s introducing some form of movement to audit all of this shit.

Kevin de León
Tomorrow?

Nury Martinez
That’s what she informed me. And he or she mentioned that…

Kevin de León
She’s going to look into the L.A. Instances after—

Nury Martinez
The one person who has form of signaled that’s going to be supportive is—

Kevin de León
[L.A. County Supervisor] Kathryn [Barger].

Nury Martinez
Sure. Las otras, no le digo (The others, I gained’t inform them). Don’t be shocked if the African Individuals or the previous guard, get to [Los Angeles County Supervisor] Holly [Mitchell], get to [Supervisor] Sheila [Kuehl], after all, as a result of she’s all about it. And [Supervisor] Janice [Hahn] is gonna panic and possibly not do something. So should you’re going to do that, be sure to line it up, as a result of if not, you’re gonna look silly.

Gil Cedillo
They gotta name an audit. Do they want a vote for that? They need to simply do it.

Nury Martinez
So she referred to as me and I used to be like, when she calls me about that shit it’s as a result of she desires me to assist her get the votes and I’m like what? I’m not involving myself in your shit. That’s in your facet of the road. I don’t… So I informed her, you’re gonna have issues with Holly, Sheila y Janice, le va dar miedo (it’s going to scare her), as a result of she represents African Individuals.

Kevin de León
However you already know what I want, simply usually? That there was like, we should always inform her no matter occurs, if it was her or one other Latino, they’d be fucking voting for that shit—

Gil Cedillo
In a heartbeat.

Kevin de León
In a heartbeat. They’d vote for that shit in a heartbeat.

Nury Martinez
So I am going, I feel it’s [inaudible] for them not however…

Kevin de León
It’s the double customary.

Nury Martinez
Be sure you do your rounds. At the least safe a 3rd one.

Kevin de León
As a result of it’s dangerous politically for them. If that involves a vote, they’re in all probability going to say, you already know, they’re going to in all probability attempt to ensure Hilda doesn’t deliver it up for a vote.

Nury Martinez
Does Curren sound nervous? Is his shit finished? Like I don’t know, I can’t actually inform. He informed me it was finished. However I’m like, man. I don’t assume any of our shit is ever finished. They’re by no means finished. They by no means shut a chapter on us. They simply hold opening one other guide, they flip the web page, huh?

Kevin de León
I feel they just like the enterprise. You recognize, belief me. I had one scenario as soon as, it infuriated me, infuriated me. I had the FBI, sooner or later, go go to some consultants who I fired from the Vitality Fee, no not that, the Utilities Fee, as a result of I believed they have been too near the utility corporations. And I’d turn out to be professional tem. So I’m professional tem for the primary time, so I’m like cleansing home, I’m cleansing home.

Nury Martinez
It was your anniversary this weekend. Fb jogged my memory that I used to be on the Walt Disney Corridor…

Kevin de León
Oh! Oct. fifteenth, yeah.

Nury Martinez
If you have been doing all of your little swearing-in—

Kevin de León
Swearing-in. Which, by the way in which, that swearing-in ceremony—

Nury Martinez
You bought shit for.

Kevin de León
I acquired shit throughout for it and a month after my factor, in November, [former L.A. City Councilmember and county Supervisor] Zev Yaroslavsky had a black-tie, red-carpet occasion. The Walt Disney Live performance Corridor. What did the press say, what did the press say. Shhh… Zilch.

Nury Martinez
That’s why I don’t have events, due to you. No, I’m critical! As a result of I’m like, we will’t have a good time our personal, our personal accomplishments.

Kevin de León
No, you may, you may have a celebration. However you already know what? No, you may have it. You’ll be able to have it. However you gotta have it at Olvera Road.

Gil Cedillo
El Pueblo.

Kevin de León
Olvera Road. You must have it at Roosevelt Excessive Faculty. Or Pacoima. That’s what, as a result of that’s the place they count on us to be at.

Nury Martinez
Que no (Why not) have it in Pacoima! Proper there by the swap meet. Simply meet on the swap meet! All people’s seen it.

Kevin de León
You’ll be able to’t have it on the Walt Disney Live performance Corridor, which is a public constructing. Or aqui en (right here in) MacArthur Park.

Nury Martinez
Criticism for that, and I’m like, “I used to be there.” You recognize, you had a ceremony, and then you definately fed us, you fed us truck meals.

Kevin de León
Taco meals. Tacos.

Nury Martinez
It wasn’t even, you didn’t even have the little waiters going doing this shit, like I keep in mind.

Kevin de León
Kamala [Harris] raised, when she acquired legal professional normal, Kamala raised, like, a few hundred thousand {dollars}. Nada. Tranquilo. (Nothing. No fuss.) I raised $50,000. And the $50,000 was to fucking feed them meals. And I acquired—

Nury Martinez
You had a bunch of vans.

Kevin de León
I acquired the venue free, however I needed to pay IATSE as a result of they needed to do all of the sound stuff like that. These have been all the prices. And I acquired shit throughout it as a result of, we, as Latinos, whether or not you’re labor, whether or not you’re within the political area, no matter area, we’re not supposed to meet these positions. And it has to do with the white liberal world. As a result of I inform people once more, all these crazies in Orange County, who’re pro-Trump, I mentioned, neglect about them. They don’t do nothing to us. They’re simply loopy individuals. They’re no risk to us. It’s the white liberals. It’s the L.A. Instances.

Nury Martinez
Amen.

Kevin de León
You recognize, and should you noticed the press, you already know, simply goal, should you noticed the press over Mark Ridley-Thomas, you’d assume this man was going to be canonized for homelessness. For all the pieces he’s finished.

Nury Martinez
For naming buildings after himself?

Kevin de León
The man who talks about homelessness…

Nury Martinez
No hace nada. (He doesn’t do something.)

Kevin de León
… final result and manufacturing.

Nury Martinez
You inform me what Measure H has finished? You inform me what number of detox beds, what number of psychological well being services? You inform me the place’s, the place are these beds that this initiative was, you already know, that this tax is meant to do? That is why he was freaking out after we come after the county, te acuerdas (keep in mind)? He speaks out and defends them.

Kevin de León
He defends LAHSA. He defends the county.

Nury Martinez
Defends the place he comes from as a result of he didn’t do shit when he was there.

Kevin de León
For 10 years. He did nothing.

Nury Martinez
That’s after we began having him and I began going sideways.

Kevin de León
I informed my workers, I mentioned, “Why do I work this difficult? I don’t need to work this difficult. Let’s do it the way in which Mark Ridley-Thomas does. Let’s slide and glide on the floor, you already know, evenly after which give the notion that we do issues, you already know.”

Nury Martinez
We hang around with white liberals and make them—

Ron Herrera
Yeah, however our neighborhood is the poorest.

Kevin de León
No, I do know what you’re saying. I get it, you’re proper. We’re simply saying sarcastically.

Gil Cedillo
Two-sixty. Two-sixty proper right here. Two-sixty. Not one particular person left behind. Not one cop. Not one struggle. Nothing. 10:30 was the deadline, 10:50 it was finished.

Nury Martinez
I need him to arrest the protesters.

Gil Cedillo
The one individuals left have been 30 protesters who bum-rushed the fence and the gate.

Kevin de León
It’s best to make the announcement tomorrow, Tuesday. What you probably did, you already know? And I even—

Gil Cedillo
The Instances? Proper? They hate it, they hate it as a result of we didn’t name them after we did our exclusives. KPCC, Univision, Telemundo, La Opinion. These have been the 4 issues we did solely.

Ron Herrera
These 30 fucking protesters ought to get a, purchase a tent and transfer into the park with these guys.

Gil Cedillo
We informed them, depart ’em and lock ’em in.

Kevin de León
No, however there’s nowhere for them to cost their Teslas after they return house to Silver Lake, you already know?

Nury Martinez
Yeah, the place are they going to go take a shit?

[Laughter.]

Nury Martinez
I mentioned allow them to fucking—

Kevin de León
Within the lake?

Nury Martinez
Ahí que se, que se hagan (Allow them to get) cochino.

Gil Cedillo
I mentioned depart them. Depart them. They’re there. We acquired all the town automobiles out. We acquired all the pieces out. We left them. I mentioned wait until after the information after which go inform them you gotta break up once more. So that they left. We left them there. What did they do? They, they’re sitting there like they don’t don’t have anything to do, proper? No person, there’s no cameras, there’s no person’s there, and it’s similar to, park’s closed.

Ron Herrera
I believed this was a rudderless ship. Final week?

Kevin de León
What the…

Ron Herrera
Town is a rudderless ship.

Nury Martinez
Is that what [former Mayor] Antonio [Villaraigosa] mentioned? Fucking asshole, dude. Que te, que pas— (What the, what hap—), what I don’t perceive it. I don’t perceive what occurs on… I imply informed you, I don’t have—

Ron Herrera
Rudderless ship. No management…

Nury Martinez
No management. “Rome is burning” was the opposite quote. I used to be gonna textual content it and get into it with him, however what for? You see the messages. “Hermanita (Little sister)…”

Kevin de León
That’s what he does.

Nury Martinez
“Hermani—” You heard the shit that I performed for you? It’s loopy shit, the shit that he leaves on my voicemail. I’m like, man, dude. He’s attempting. He’s attempting desperately to determine shit out for [then-mayoral candidate and Rep.] Karen [Bass]. He was the one one there at his factor, at her factor on Saturday.

Ron Herrera
The identical factor, he goes, “hermanito (little brother).”

Nury Martinez
“Hermanito, hermanito. Hermanita.”

Gil Cedillo
It’s the awkwardness of claiming, he’s been there for me and it’s type of, I simply pay attention. I simply pay attention.

Nury Martinez
What number of instances have you ever been fucked over?

Kevin de León
By him?

Nury Martinez
I hold a rating for this man ’trigger he forgets. I’m like, I don’t know man.

Kevin de León
He and I’ve by no means been shut. We’re not that shut.

Ron Herrera
I at all times say fuck, Gil will fuck his ass up.

Nury Martinez
He’ll.

Ron Herrera
Let’s go to a beer bar. No laborious liquor. Sober. Jukebox and, and a beer. Fuck it. Hey, watch my boy rock. I inform, you already know, the silly those who I hang around with, watch my boy rock. Old fashioned. No laborious liquor, only a jukebox and beer, fuck it. Watch him.

Gil Cedillo
Properly, I can drink him underneath the desk, however he’s fairly quick I’ll let you know. He’s a fighter.

Kevin de León
He appears to be like like a bit of viejita.

Gil Cedillo
I’m a diplomat. He’s a fighter.

Nury Martinez
Que trae con ese? (What’s his beef with him?)

[Crosstalk]

Nury Martinez
I spotted he went grayed out. I suppose he may dye his hair, however I didn’t understand that his hair was that curly. Did he name to let you know that he was gonna assist her?

Kevin de León
He referred to as and he mentioned to me, “We’ve been mates for 40 years, we return to the Communist Celebration and…” and all these items. Kamala’s operation did a quantity on Karen, you already know when it got here to the entire VP factor. Who do you assume is a drop of opp analysis to the press? You recognize, when it got here to the entire dynamic of Karen, and deep-six her together with her Communist Celebration ties. He says it was Ace Smith and all these people who did it, you already know. Then says who, who, after which [Rep.] Maxine [Waters] referred to as me, and Maxine says this complete VP shit, you already know, Maxine begins scaring me, you already know that, that was no actual factor. That was [House Speaker] Nancy [Pelosi] calling Joe Biden, mentioned: “Are you able to do me a favor? Are you able to simply elevate this girl, you already know, for a bit of bit?” That was not actual, however I suppose they acquired bronca (beef), Maxine and her.

Nury Martinez
Once I was right here with Maxine right here at your occasion, she was speaking every kind of shit about all of them.

Ron Herrera
See, my factor is like with—

Nury Martinez
I like Maxine by the way in which.

Kevin de León
I like her too. Yeah, she’s straight. She’s straight.

Nury Martinez
No matter Eric, I’m cool together with her.

‘The entire seats are Latino’

Ron Herrera
Gil and I speak, I imply, many years upon many years upon many years. Look again, and what have any of them finished for Latinos? And what are they going to do shifting ahead within the metropolis? Nothing. So, you already know, all this. I imply, my purpose in life is to get the three of you elected and you already know, I’m simply targeted on that. I imply, we’re just like the little Latino caucus of our, you already know, our personal—

Kevin de León
Of our metropolis.

Ron Herrera
Yeah. And we now have to search out, you already know, new people to herald. [L.A. City Councilman Bob] Blumenfield was in right here the opposite day, proper, and he goes, “Properly, we’re attempting to create one other Latino seat.” Why do I’ve to go try this? I am going, fuck, the way in which I see it, all the seats are Latino.

Nury Martinez
What did he say?

Ron Herrera
He goes, “Oh, you bought a degree there.”

Nury Martinez
Fuck that bitch.

Ron Herrera
You recognize, what do we are saying, 52% of the inhabitants is Latino?

Nury Martinez
His mentor is the explanation we’re so fucking gerrymandered within the Valley.

Ron Herrera
Proper. Proper. So, I imply, I’m hoping that you just guys can all determine this redistricting out as a result of I simply want you elected.

Kevin de León
Yeah.

Ron Herrera
I simply want you elected. After which they’re fucking with you? The place, the place are you at now?

Nury Martinez
Yeah, I used to be with [L.A. City Council redistricting commission members] Wendy [Mitchell] and [Richard] Polanco and [Richard] Katz. I don’t know, I didn’t have any beef with them however I’ve a beef now.

Kevin de León
Shadow Hills.

Nury Martinez
How the fuck you set me in Shadow Hills. Not solely that, you took away the airport, you took away Anheuser-Busch. You took away — which generates about 1,000 jobs. The airport generates one other, fuck, man, about 5,000 jobs, and he took away the Sepulveda Basin, which is all of the shit that I’m shifting ahead in preparation for the Olympics.

Kevin de León
Is that Hansen Dam?

Nury Martinez
No, Hansen Dam is [Monica Rodriguez’s]. The basin is in the course of the Valley. That’s between the 405 and the 101. That vast — it’s at all times on fireplace — that vast fucking piece of land. I’m understanding a take care of the Rams, I’m understanding a take care of LA 2028. The mayor’s concerned. I simply acquired off the cellphone with the proprietor of the Rams, Stan [Kroenke] and Kevin on Friday. And I’m watching all this shit, proper? I’m like, hmmm. So that you need to discuss Latino districts? What sort of districts are you attempting to create? Since you’re taking away our belongings. You’re simply going to create poor Latino districts with nothing? And the entire Worth, [Councilmember] Marqueece [Harris-Dawson] shit, and I informed Curren yesterday, I don’t perceive this complete factor. Hear, Curren, the way in which I see it’s you busted your ass to deliver the Lucas Museum. You busted your ass to construct that soccer stadium. Proper?

Kevin de León
Banc of California [stadium].

Nury Martinez
You probably did all that shit. And now this man simply desires to take it from you. If he’s arguing about belongings, go take the airport from Bonin. Andale! You wanna try this? Let’s vote! Have the brand new commissioner put that shit on the market.

Kevin de León
Have you learnt why they need to take these belongings? As a result of they, they anticipate he loses. Let’s say he prevails subsequent upcoming spherical. This can be his final 4 years, that ultimately turns into a Latino seat. They need to take—

Nury Martinez
That’s even worse. That’s much more insulting. That you just’re not solely going to again up your brother, however that you just anticipate it going Latino as a result of you already know it’s coming. And also you don’t need that Latina or Latino to have any belongings. It’s even worse.

Ron Herrera
Oh, however then the subsequent election is set by you three.

Nury Martinez
I’m simply saying that’s— I’m glad you caught on to it as a result of that’s precisely what they’re doing.

Kevin de León
However they’re fucking, they’re attempting to fuck one other — CoCo — one other Latino, being me, by saying we’ll compensate you, Curren Worth, by taking half of downtown away.

Nury Martinez
Yeah.

Kevin de León
You recognize, and giving it to you.

Nury Martinez
Yeah.

Kevin de León
So they fuck a future Latino for CD 9. And the present Latino for CD 14. That’s how boastful, simply how boastful it’s.

Nury Martinez
So going into this, it’s very clear to me that Katz already had a map even earlier than they met. I feel Bob Blumenfield, his fingerprints is throughout this, and I feel they’ve been working with, I feel they co-opted Fred Ali. Fred has very sturdy ties to the African American neighborhood in South L.A. I didn’t understand to what extent, and I feel they co-opt them after which the remainder of it’s simply, you already know. They acquired your commissioner satisfied that this Latino seat within the Valley is price something. It’s bullshit. It’s a faux seat. She’s like, she’s, she’s headstrong about that shit.

Ron Herrera
Did Danny say something about it to you?

Nury Martinez
Danny, Danny informed me, Bakewell, who I’ve a relationship with, both he’s at all times been there for me. I referred to as him for some, not recommendation, however form of a sounding board about Mark. He informed me some shit in non-public that I do know I’m making the proper determination, based mostly on my dialog with him. However he additionally was asking me about this redistricting bullshit as a result of he’s very pissed off, as a result of Mark, as a result of Mark has his fingerprints on this shit that Marqueece is attempting to do. So even amongst them three, it’s problematic as a result of they’re fucking one another. And so he met with Marqueece and Curren individually to attempt to determine what if they will, you already know, slice the infant in half. Curren’s not about that. So that they’re attempting to determine learn how to break up Expo Park and possibly, I don’t assume, I don’t assume that’s a superb, that’s a uncooked deal for Curren. What I informed Danny was this: I mentioned, depart Curren alone as a result of he wants these belongings to run for reelection. That’s his platform — job creation, financial improvement, todo eso (all that). Depart him alone. What I feel ought to occur, that is actually about belongings, I informed Danny, inform Marqueece to go after the airport. You bought the Individuals Mover, or no matter that shit is named, you bought the modernization tasks coming down.

Kevin de León
After which he would go after one other Black member.

Crude assaults towards Mike Bonin

Nury Martinez
Billions of {dollars} price of contracts on the airport. We’re negotiating with labor on all this shit. You need to be a baller? Go after that, as a result of that’s the place the fucking cash is at.

Kevin de León
As a result of that’s the fourth Black member. That’s the fourth Black member. You recognize there’s 4 Blacks on the Metropolis Council.

Nury Martinez
He cherished it. There’s a what?

Kevin de León
4 Blacks.

Nury Martinez
4 Blacks? Yeah. Bonin.

Kevin de León
Mike Bonin. Mike Bonin gained’t fucking ever say a peep about Latinos. He’ll by no means say a fucking phrase about Latinos.

Ron Herrera
That’s useless man strolling, proper, Gil?

Gil Cedillo
Yep.

Kevin de León
He talks a lot shit about homelessness and he doesn’t even construct any—

Nury Martinez
Nada. (Nothing.) The trackers, take a look at the trackers. You and I are at all times on the trackers. Even LAHSA put out a tracker final week. It’s best to see the fucking 15 fucking motels or lodges, motel rooms that fucking Bonin put up. Fuck them.

Gil Cedillo
200 and sixty placements Friday evening.

Nury Martinez
To his 15.

Gil Cedillo
To his 15. Hundreds of models of housing.

Ron Herrera
He’s acquired to run in a recall now, proper?

Nury Martinez
So what’s going to occur with Bonin is, if it qualifies, if it qualifies — this is the reason I don’t, I actually don’t ask the town legal professional — if the recall qualifies, his recall is scheduled for March. Recall.

Kevin de León
Not the election.

Nury Martinez
The election’s in June. So, si pierde (if he loses), he’s nonetheless on the poll for June, so what does that imply? He runs twice? He will get recalled in March after which he’s nonetheless on the poll for June. How does that work?

Kevin de León
That’s loopy.

Gil Cedillo
He’ll lose each. He’s not going to rehab himself and—

Nury Martinez
So getting again to Marqueece. I informed Danny if you wish to reduce a deal and if you wish to, if you wish to make like fucking boss strikes, I might go after the airport. He goes, “Fuck, I really like that concept.” I mentioned, “Inform Marqueece. Go take it from his buddy. Don’t go after, depart him alone. Go get the airport from his fucking little brother, that little bitch, Bonin.”

Ron Herrera
[inaudible] Black individuals.

Nury Martinez
I am going, “What’s with, what’s with Bonin?” I mentioned, “Bonin thinks he’s fucking Black.” “That man don’t assume he’s Black.” I am going, “He thinks he’s Black.” I informed him the identical factor.

Councilmember Mike Bonin listens throughout the council’s Oct. 26 assembly, when his colleagues voted unanimously to censure Councilmembers Gil Cedillo and Kevin de León, in addition to former Councilmember Nury Martinez, for his or her statements within the leaked recording.

(Irfan Khan / Los Angeles Instances)

Kevin de León
His child is. His child is.

Nury Martinez
He goes, “Why are they so shut?” I do not know.

Kevin de León
He’s from Massachusetts.

Gil Cedillo
His child, the one he adopted.

Kevin de León
His child he adopted. [inaudible]

Nury Martinez
He’s Black. Yeah. Lo trae así (He lugs him round) throughout Black Historical past Month, lo lleva al council y lo pone aca (he takes him to the council and places him there), keep in mind? Lo trae like…

Ron Herrera
A prop?

Nury Martinez
… it’s an, it’s an adjunct after we do the MLK parade.

Kevin de León
Similar to when—

Ron Herrera
They used to have these statues within the plantations—

Kevin de León
Nury brings her Goyard bag or the Louis Vuitton bag.

Nury Martinez
Ahí trae su (There he brings his) negrito, like on the facet. Lo trae, verdad? You sit subsequent to him, you don’t acquired nothing to say. For MLK, for the parade, that Herb used to arrange and all of the council who wished to hitch Herb on the float, ’trigger he used to do a complete float — it was once good. Bonin could be like, “Hey, Nury, are you’re going to the MLK?” “Properly, Herb invited me, yeah, I’ll go.” “OK, I’m bringing regardless of the child’s identify is.” I’m like, it’s just like the oddest factor, it’s like Black and brown on this float. After which there’s this white man with this little Black child who’s misbehaved. Este niño (This child) has no, he’s, they’re not even, they’re not doing, the child’s bouncing off the effing partitions on the float. Virtually tipping it over. There’s nothing you are able to do to manage him.

Nury Martinez
Parece changuito. (He looks like a bit of monkey.) And I’m similar to, “Oh my God.” I’m over right here attempting to mother or father this child. I’m like, you may’t try this. I mentioned no. And Mike is like, you already know, I’m like, you’re not fucking instructing your child something. It’s me and Karen Bass on the float attempting to fucking verify this little child. Me, Karen Bass y la esposa de (the spouse of) Marqueece, Carrie, we’re all one another as a result of we’re the three ladies on the float, like who’s gonna fucking — this child’s going to tip us over. As a result of he’s actually hanging on the rails.

Ron Herrera
We will’t allow them to off as a result of the spectators will beat his ass.

Nury Martinez
They deal with him like a bit of white child, which I used to be like, this child wants a beatdown. Like, let me take him across the nook after which I’ll deliver him again.

Gil Cedillo
Yeah.

Nury Martinez
“¿Sí me entiendes? Ven pa’ aca.” (“You perceive me? Recover from right here.”)

Gil Cedillo
Wants a pinch, one thing.

Nury Martinez
So, in any case, getting again to redistricting.

Group activist Eunisses Hernandez defeated Councilmember Gil Cedillo within the June election.

(Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Instances)

Nury Martinez
Yeah, that’s, yeah. So.

Ron Herrera
Properly, I take a look at it like, like your opponents are broad. There’s quite a lot of connection between all this, proper? So, and we now have to be cognizant of it right here. You recognize, I’ve to be quiet about it, proper? However we now have to research who actually is, you already know, our opponent.

Gil Cedillo
Yeah.

Ron Herrera
Proper. Like with, you already know, Gil’s opponent. She seems out of nowhere, a 31-year-old, you already know, lawyer that, who’s she, proper? However as soon as Isaac Bryan endorsed her—

Kevin de León
Isaac Bryan endorsed her?

Gil Cedillo
Yep.

Ron Herrera
It surfaced the opposition. So all of the, you already know, people like with [L.A. County Dist. Atty. George] Gascón, he did name me and desires to have breakfast with me.

Nury Martinez
What’s taking him so lengthy?

Ron Herrera
I simply mentioned, hey, we have to speak.

Nury Martinez
Gil supported him from the—

Ron Herrera
I, don’t fear, I acquired you.

Nury Martinez
Fuck that man. I’m telling you now, he’s with the Blacks.

Ron Herrera
You’ll begin seeing them line up. Isaac was the primary one. And I used to be with Isaac hanging out at Style of Soul in South L.A. So, however you already know, it’s deeper than, as a result of Gil and I have been speaking about it, it’s deeper than, than what you assume. This isn’t any 31-year-old rookie working.

Kevin de León
Simply working on her personal.

Ron Herrera
She’s not working on her personal.

Nury Martinez
This child, Eunice, Eunisses, no matter her identify is.

Kevin de León
I met her for the primary time. The opposite day she got here. I don’t know who she was. And he or she launched herself.

Nury Martinez
I do know I’ve by no means met her.

Ron Herrera
Yeah. However it goes again to you already know, what has her mentors finished for our peeps?

Nury Martinez
Who’re the mentors?

Gil Cedillo
The largest factor that I talked about Thursday, at E&A, was quite a lot of this has an anti-union bent.

Ron Herrera
Yeah.

Gil Cedillo
It’s all about funding, the CoCos, and the entire vary and the speak to [inaudible] a complete vary…

Kevin de León
You’re speaking about nonprofits versus unions.

Gil Cedillo
…of associates, proper? Good names, benevolent mission, however anti-union, proper? You informed me we wished to depend the variety of engineers within the committee assembly and at 7% Blacks, and so they have been screaming for fairness to get to 9. After which they inform him 22% Latinos are engineers. And so they say we’re aiming at fairness, he meant parity. I mentioned that’s not parity, that’s 50. Half these engineers should be, proper? All these are union jobs. Proper? Every little thing within the metropolis is union. Every little thing is locked down union. We’d like extra individuals on the desk, extra architects, engineers to judge all the event that’s wanted. All the event that’s wanted as all the roles that we now have to create. However they need to give it to a nonprofit that CoCo dictates the place you’re not likely an architect, you’re not likely an engineer, you’re type of a tech, proper? Oh, you don’t have to be an engineer. You don’t have to be an architect. You don’t have to be in public works. You don’t must, you already know, to select up the trash. Every little thing is finished by 501(c)(3)s. And meaning all of the union jobs.

Kevin de León
It’s a distinct sort of outsourcing.

Gil Cedillo
It’s outsourcing. It’s contracting out.

Ron Herrera
Subcontracted. Straight out. It’s key. That’s how we see it. It’s contracting.

Gil Cedillo
Yep. 100%. So the E&A. Identical individuals coming after you’re the similar individuals coming after me.

Kevin de León
[inaudible] Darlene.

Gil Cedillo
Is that her identify?

Nury Martinez
Darlene Kuba?

Kevin de León
The one…

Nury Martinez
Oh, Marleen.

Kevin de León
Marleen.

Gil Cedillo
African American girl?

Nury Martinez
No, no, you’re speaking about, you’re speaking about all engineers and designers. We’re speaking concerning the different, the opposite one?

Gil Cedillo
Darlene Kuba?

Nury Martinez
Yeah, who does Darlene characterize? It’s not Engineers & Architects, it’s the opposite one.

Gil Cedillo
This was Tyler.

Nury Martinez
They get it?

Gil Cedillo
Yeah, they acquired it. They’re like, freaking tossers like, oh, wow.

Ron Herrera
Yeah, actually, it’s like KIWA. KIWA does all of the eating places and small shops. They encroach on HERE and UFCW. And I had a, I’ll share this with you all. However the girl from KIWA, Alexandra, was vital of Alma from SEIU, and what went down together with her, proper? So she mentioned she was driving this morning, and she or he didn’t know if she ought to say something and be vital about what simply went down, however we will’t settle for that type of habits. You ain’t even on our radar, you’re a fucking 501(c).

Kevin de León
They don’t say nothing about Mark.

Ron Herrera
No. No. Properly, I, uh, I shut her up, although.

Nury Martinez
It’s actual unhappy the shit that I heard what occurred to her although.

Ron Herrera
However I had, I needed to put her down as a result of all of the SEIU individuals — we have been on Zoom — began citing their display, however as soon as I talked, proper? They go, yeah—

Gil Cedillo
Every little thing at SEIU, to me, begins 100% suspect. Proper? C’mon, man, I do know these items. 100% suspect.

Nury Martinez
It simply doesn’t sound like—

Gil Cedillo
There’ll be a Phil Giarrizzo again there someplace, there’ll be any individual. All I do know is the individuals they run out have been individuals who wished to arrange staff. And the individuals who stood, are individuals who wished energy.

Nury Martinez
So that you assume they wished her out, any individual?

Gil Cedillo
Yeah.

Kevin de León
To that FPCC, however–

Nury Martinez
That’s the place it began proper? It’s a [FP]PC investigation.

Kevin de León
Yeah, so if [inaudible], that the taxes and DVD stuff, however I’ve mentioned to people, “Hear, I don’t know the actual particulars. I do know Alma is an effective sturdy Latina girl.” I mentioned, $10,000 in 2014 in expenditures in a state Senate race, in Orange County [inaudible] about meals? Are you fucking kidding me? Actually?

Gil Cedillo
Yeah. They don’t just like the tacos.

Kevin de León
Actually? What? El esposo, el esposo, si el tiene bronca. Es el esposo. (The husband, the husband, if he does have a beef. It’s the husband.) However you actually gonna inform me.

Nury Martinez
That’s how I noticed it, too. He might need had some payroll points, no matter. I’m not, I’m not making excuses for that. Individuals get sloppy.

Ron Herrera
No, however the larger factor is, is that they’re sure individuals.

Gil Cedillo
You’re proper.

Ron Herrera
Proper? And we simply can’t give it. We will’t, you already know, we will’t give ourselves to ’em. No, and it’s laborious, as a result of I imply, you already know your workers would possibly do one thing fucked up, proper? You bought a handler for it, however you already know, Gil lived by this. Martin Ludlow. Martin Ludlow. They weren’t after Martin. They simply mentioned OK, fucker. You need to be that means, bam. You recognize, so—

Kevin de León
Janett Humphries.

Gil Cedillo
All politics. She sat there each place I went to, she was there. Together with her daughter. Huge deal. Signed off all the pieces. She’s a instructor’s aide. They put her on this place, proper? And have her up there. Each, all the pieces I went to she was there.

Nury Martinez
I acquired alongside together with her.

Gil Cedillo
After which they jumped her.

Nury Martinez
I didn’t assume she was very good.

Gil Cedillo
They jumped her.

Nury Martinez
Se va bien conmigo. (She will get together with me.) She acquired alongside together with her boyfriend. What’s his identify? Was once the pinnacle of 99?

Gil Cedillo
Invoice Worries.

Kevin de León
No, Invoice Lloyd.

Nury Martinez
Now that’s a fucking shady motherfucker. One time I used to be gonna, I keep in mind when me and [Richard] Vladovic on the faculty board virtually went to blows in a closed session assembly and Vladovic referred to as Antonio [Villaraigosa] to snitch on me like, that I had disrespected him. Which I did. Trigger he yelled at Mónica García and fucking Mónica García simply fucking stood there and took it. Properly, you going to fucking let him speak to you want that, fuck that shit, I’m getting up. After which I tapped within the judía (Jew), Tamar Galatzan, now I’m like, this can be a chola. Pobrecita (poor little) Mónica. I’m like, for as large as you’re and as loud as you’re, you may’t fucking defend your self. I’m not going to be spoken to that means and I’m not going to allow you to get spoken to that means, so I tapped Tamar in and we each took his ass on. Invoice then type of referred to as me to type of verify me and I’m like, fuck you dude, you too. Fucking Antonio was like why are you going — fuck this man. The way you fucking let these individuals disrespect Mónica? You guys haven’t given her a job. You weren’t even giving her a fucking wage enhance. And Antonio was the mayor! We couldn’t get a wage enhance. Que, dangerous timing, political optics y quien sabe que tanto (and who is aware of how a lot). In the meantime, we’re fucking scraping proper? Fucking making $25,000 a 12 months, having different full-time jobs. And Mónica simply lived on that I feel.

Gil Cedillo
She made everyone wealthy.

Nury Martinez
Pobrecita (Poor factor). All of them. Camacho, all these fucking guys y de que le sirvio (and what did it assist her)? I’m like, man, Antonio used her to the tenth diploma. It’s fucked up. That was, my, so me and Invoice grew to become pleasant after that. However dude, whew.

Ron Herrera
Gil and I had these discussions at totally different ends of the town, proper? However the identical dialogue 50 years in the past that we’re having right this moment. Proper?

‘The factor for us is to train our energy’

Nury Martinez
So what are we going to do about redistricting? Is that what we need to do, discuss?

Gil Cedillo
Let me say this about this. So in contrast to 25 years in the past, we do have a Mexican answerable for the Fed. Now we have a Mexican answerable for the council. Now we have extra members on the council. We’re in a distinct spot now than we have been 25 years in the past. The factor for us is to train our energy.

Ron Herrera
Precisely.

Gil Cedillo
To get collectively, like we’re, exercising our energy. You’re proper, there’s three seats. Should you work out the Valley, the seats on this hall, historic African American, which I may assist one. Possibly two. However these are Latino seats. Yeah, get Fernando Guerra in right here, there’s 57 out of 60 seats that African Individuals are in, are Latino seats. From the Comptons to the Gardenas to the—

Nury Martinez
Even Inglewood in all probability.

Gil Cedillo
Oh, Inglewood, 100%. Proper? Within the metropolis. What’s Curren at, 76%?

Nury Martinez
86.

Gil Cedillo
86.

Ron Herrera
Fucking South-Central.

Gil Cedillo
Oh my God. You’ll be able to’t throw a rock and never hit a Mexican.

Ron Herrera
South-Central.

Nury Martinez
86.

Gil Cedillo
The fifteenth can be, proper?

Ron Herrera
Yeah.

Gil Cedillo
And the eighth and the tenth.

Ron Herrera
The fifteenth must be run by union members and Latinos.

Gil Cedillo
Yep. Younger Chicano union members, longshoremen, proper? Down there, Teamsters. Proper? It’s the sturdy — one of many strongholds.

Nury Martinez
Yeah.

Gil Cedillo
We gotta get there some proficient individuals for the tenth, proper? Celinda Vazquez, individuals who grew up there, not the parachute in, not that “I went to Yale, I’m gonna come again and parachute in,” however actual individuals who grew up there.

Nury Martinez
[Talking on phone] No, no, no, that’s not true. It’s best to name Sarah about that, Sarah’s acquired extra info.

Gil Cedillo
You develop. After which taking the airport. I like that concept of taking the airport, as a result of that’s highly effective. To not have a Bonin there. However to have any individual who cares about all the roles, all the event.

Nury Martinez
[Talking on phone] Under no circumstances. Nope. And we now have no purpose to try this.

Kevin de León
What I feel is vital is that as we talk about growth, the present Latino seats that we now have proper now, CD 14, CD 1—

Nury Martinez
[Talking on phone] And [inaudible] what we’re making an attempt to do doesn’t even make that argument with that map.

Kevin de León
Monica, Nury, proper? That base needs to be protected as effectively. And ensure it stays that means for us. After which after we’re gone, you already know, if I’m profitable, I’m out subsequent 12 months.

Nury Martinez
[Talking on phone] So you must simply name Sarah. See if she may let you know extra about it as a result of she’s been speaking about it.

Kevin de León
Should you’re profitable, proper, you’re out in 4 years — that CD 1 stays Latino, CD 14 stays Latino. So, as we discuss growth, proper?

Nury Martinez
[Talking on phone] Discuss to you later. Bye. Bye-bye. Bye.

Gil Cedillo
That’s why Saturday, I informed you I can’t go to Eagle Rock, I can’t go to Highland Park. They don’t love me.

Nury Martinez
However does that map have you ever going to Eagle Rock and Highland Park?

Gil Cedillo
One among them did, I feel—

Kevin de León
Which one? So there’s two. P2.5?

Nury Martinez
Do you have got the map, Ron? As a result of I’d wish to get some readability.

Ron Herrera
Which, which one? The K2.5?

Nury Martinez
No matter map you’ve acquired, as a result of we’re far and wide. And these guys have already got their very own deal.

Ron Herrera
The 64, what’s it? 932, that one? The newest? The LCLAA [the Labor Council for Latin American Advancement, which is pronounced lack-lah] one?

Nury Martinez
I feel, it doesn’t matter what occurs, Gil, we’re going to have to repair it in our home.

Gil Cedillo
Sure.

Nury Martinez
So, let’s give you choices. The entire thing is, push each of them, after which we’ll should determine it out in home. That’s it. So amend it, make adjustments now. This fee has fucking gone rogue and so they’re fucking ineffective at this level. To me, simply transfer them each after which we’ll fucking determine it out from there. However should you’re pushing whack maps, you’re gonna find yourself with a fucking catastrophe on the council. So push each.

Gil Cedillo
The opposite factor—

Nury Martinez
That’s all I’m asking.

Gil Cedillo
That course of is. I’m going to go away it right here. You recognize me on course of. Proper?

Nury Martinez
Yeah, that complete course of is shit that they’re arguing.

Gil Cedillo
I’m not a lot on the method because the end result. The result.

Kevin de León
The result, yeah. Who cares concerning the course of?

Gil Cedillo
So, there’s sure individuals who don’t benefit, like us, rescuing them. Your comadre (feminine pal), proper?

Nury Martinez
I’m not arguing something about that.

Kevin de León
Quien es su (Who’s your), who’s your comadre?

Gil Cedillo
You recognize, [L.A. Councilmember] Nithya [Raman].

Kevin de León
Oh, Nithya, yeah.

Gil Cedillo
She doesn’t benefit. Proper? She’s not our ally. She’s not going to assist us. Her district shouldn’t be a district we will depend on.

Kevin de León
So that you’re saying that’s the one to place within the blender and chop up, left and proper.

Throughout the redistricting course of, individuals within the secretly recorded audio mentioned methods of redrawing Councilmember Nithya Raman’s district.

(Los Angeles Instances)

Nury Martinez
Properly, that’s what they did.

Gil Cedillo
Yeah, why not?

Nury Martinez
However it additionally impacts everyone else. It impacts the Valley, which fucks me. And I’m not cool with that. It impacts — and whether or not you want [L.A. Councilmember] Mitch [O’Farrell] or not — it impacts him. It impacts you. It impacts Curren. The entire level right here is how can we stabilize the Valley?

Ron Herrera
Grasp on one sec. The child that’s working from HERE. He ain’t in your facet both.

Gil Cedillo
No.

Nury Martinez
Oh, no, I do know.

Ron Herrera
Hugo [Soto-Martínez].

Kevin de León
Who’s he working?

Nury Martinez
Run towards Mitch.

Ron Herrera
So her level on Mitch is, I simply interrupted her, however I apologize for that. However I need to be sure that we shield Mitch—

Gil Cedillo
Allies.

Ron Herrera
As a result of this man is, this man is your opponent.

Gil Cedillo
[inaudible] The one I do know and the one I don’t know.

[Laughter.]

Gil Cedillo
I acquired one satan and one other satan.

Nury Martinez
So my level right here, is don’t mess up the Valley, ’trigger we’re cool within the Valley. Why do you need to fuck with [L.A. Councilmember Paul] Krekorian for? No person desires a bit of Armenian love? I imply, they haven’t finished something to us. He’s not an issue. Stabilize the Valley. Nithya shouldn’t be going to get the proper district. We’re not going to present her a renters district. That’s what she desires. I informed her that’s not taking place. You’re gonna get the district that you just’re going to get, you’re going to should run, and possibly in a district that greater than half of them don’t know who you’re. Go fucking do the work and see if you may get reelected.

Ron Herrera
That’s why she—

Nury Martinez
However our dedication is to not reelect her. That’s not my dedication, proper?

Ron Herrera
Yeah. No, she desires to rile up the renters to create a base and never do something for the renters. However she’s simply acquired to maintain that agitation.

Nury Martinez
She’s not going to get the renters. We’re not, we will’t give her that.

Kevin de León
As a result of the factor is, is like say for instance, CD 1, or CD 14. In fact, within the speedy for Gil’s reelection. However then Gil has one time period. It’s not us. It’s for Latino energy for the foreseeable future. Whereas for her, it’s not about, it’s about simply her as a person, proper?

Ron Herrera
So for us right here—

Gil Cedillo
She gained’t even endorse me. She gained’t even endorse me.

Nury Martinez
We’re going to get to that time. So is… What is that this?

Ron Herrera
One of many maps.

Nury Martinez
Which of them are these?

Gil Cedillo
Hear dangerous stuff is, it involves the council.

Nury Martinez
Yeah, however give me one thing I can work with. You give me a fucked-up district the place you piss off the complete Valley. That’s not gonna work.

Kevin de León
Yeah, that was vital.

Nury Martinez
Why are individuals fucking with us?

[Laughter.]

Nury Martinez
Why? It’s at all times the case. We don’t become involved in anyone else’s neighborhoods.

Kevin de León
All of the Latinos for some purpose, Polanco, Sonja Diaz, Rocky Delgadillo…

Nury Martinez
However why?

Kevin de León
Everybody however the UFCW ones.

Ron Herrera
I feel what occurs is it’s like the rest, Gil. It’s simply, provided that, “Oh, OK, OK, OK.” After which different individuals in all probability mentioned, “What? OK.” They don’t actually. I’m certain Katz and his crew have an agenda however—

Nury Martinez
The judíos (Jews) reduce their take care of South L.A. That’s how I see it. And so they’re gonna screw everyone else.

Ron Herrera
Was it Mark?

Nury Martinez
And Katz.

Ron Herrera
So right here’s like, for us, I didn’t end, however, so we acquired the, you already know, Gil’s opponent, no matter you need to name them. Proper? After which you have got, you already know, the CoCo group. Proper? Marqueece? After which you have got us, proper? Who imagine in union and, you already know, serving to poor Latinos. So we may, if the council break up 3 ways — which it very effectively may — then you definately acquired the whites on there, proper? So 4. We’re the minority with 25% at that time.

Kevin de León
I feel Curren will include us.

Nury Martinez
Yeah.

Ron Herrera
No, however I imply, I imply, simply sooner or later.

Nury Martinez
Curren will include us.

Kevin de León
Krekorian, I feel, will include us, but when they’re made certain that the labor map is healthier for Krekorian.

Nury Martinez
He additionally desires his man elected. So he wants a district that Adrin Nazarian can win it. That’s what they need. They need to guarantee, they need to be reassured that they’ve, not a Armenian district within the Valley, trigger that doesn’t exist. However they need as many Armenians in that district as attainable to have the ability to play. Now I don’t assume Adrin, Adrin will get elected. If a white, a good white businesswoman runs in that district, it’s nonetheless fairly white. However that’s on them. I’m not, I’m not slicing that take care of anyone as a result of I don’t know. I don’t know that he can win.

Ron Herrera
You recognize that Aveen works for Caruso.

Nury Martinez
Areen. No, ya se fue (he left). He began his personal enterprise.

Ron Herrera
He’s with Caruso.

Nury Martinez
Yeah, I like him.

Ron Herrera
He’s cool. I imply…

Nury Martinez
I don’t have an issue with him. He’s been useful to me up to now. He’s vital of Krekorian as a result of they’d a small falling-out when Areen left his workplace. Krekorian was actually pissed off and stopped speaking to him. I feel they’ve made up, however I acquired together with Areen.

Kevin de León
What’s his identify? What’s he appear to be?

Nury Martinez
Areen. The man with the one eyebrow.

Ron Herrera
Tall man.

Nury Martinez
He was once Antonio’s physique particular person. Like that’s how I met him. He’s married to a buddy of mine. Areen, what’s his final identify?

Ron Herrera
Sepa (Who the hell is aware of).

Nury Martinez
No se (I don’t know).

Gil Cedillo
It ends in i-a-n, I wager you.

Nury Martinez
What are we going to do guys? I imply—

Kevin de León
So the query is as a result of—

Ron Herrera
You’re going to deal with yourselves.

Kevin de León
Yeah.

Ron Herrera
No matter—

Nury Martinez
Yeah, however can we surrender on this fee? Is there something that’s, uh, is Polanco going to maintain fucking with the Valley? Like, who I don’t even perceive what his shit’s about.

Kevin de León
Hashish.

Nury Martinez
Yeah, pero (however), does he have one of the best curiosity in thoughts for you? Is he attempting to create hashish strains? That’s how I see it.

Looking for a safer district

Gil Cedillo
You know the way I really feel about hashish. So he’s acquired nothing for me. He’s acquired a easy cost: Shield me, advance me to go west. I don’t want the northeast, I don’t want Eagle Rock. I don’t want Highland Park. And I don’t want Lincoln Heights. And so these proposals that we’re speaking about, I imply that’s the entry for me. And I don’t want Elysian. All these, these new proposals to, I don’t need to say to guard the Valley, however the totally different configurations find yourself giving me complications. [inaudible]

Nury Martinez
What’s, however what’s—

Gil Cedillo
Elysian Valley is a headache. Eagle Rock’s a headache. Highland Park’s a headache. And Lincoln Heights. I don’t want these complications. I’ve poor individuals. La Raza.

Kevin de León
The Elysian, Eagle Rock and Highland Park are white. And Highland Park, after all, is white. To Lincoln Heights is…

Gil Cedillo
Taken over by whites.

Kevin de León
Latinos.

Ron Herrera
Is it?

Kevin de León
However not voters, proper? Are you speaking about activists?

Nury Martinez
That is what I’m attempting to determine, Gil, like—

Gil Cedillo
Voters go to work after which go house.

Nury Martinez
So all these communities you retain mentioning, I don’t know the place you go.

Gil Cedillo
Are being dropped into my space.

Nury Martinez
With this map?

Gil Cedillo
With the brand new proposal. The newest proposal fingers me—

Nury Martinez
And that’s why you don’t need it?

Gil Cedillo
Sure. The one cost is to develop me south and—

Nury Martinez
So has he finished that but?

Gil Cedillo
That’s what the map is, the one that you just object to. That’s what that map does. And so while you’re fixing issues within the Valley, you’re sending me complications to my facet.

Nury Martinez
And that’s why you’re not down with that map.

Kevin de León
You’re referring to the labor map?

Nury Martinez
Yeah.

Kevin de León
There’s two maps, K2.5 after which the labor one.

Gil Cedillo
K2.5 I’m good with, proper? I, we, all regarded on the world from the place we sit and I take a look at my K2.5 map — I’m good. When one other map is available in, it dumps complications from you and Mitch to me. So that you guys are giving me your complications.

Kevin de León
I’m not giving nobody a headache.

Gil Cedillo
Properly, I’m simply saying that the 14 is Eagle Rock. Highland Park is Eagle Rock.

Ron Herrera
So how do you… Are you able to therapeutic massage Gil’s points in council, although, proper?

Nury Martinez
That’s what we—

Gil Cedillo
The west and south, we will’t… Then you definitely gotta select…

Kevin de León
If you say, west, what are you referring to? Ok-town?

Gil Cedillo
In direction of Ok-town, yeah.

Kevin de León
All of it, half of it, quarter of it…

Gil Cedillo
No, in the direction of the gateway. In direction of Vermont. [inaudible] Ok-town. They love us, they deal with us.

Nury Martinez
Is that what you need, Ok-town?

Gil Cedillo
No, I don’t need Ok-town. See that’s the place the expansion goes, in the direction of Ok-town. No person even, after they say Ok-town, what’s the borders? Proper? I acquired Ok-town. We go sixth to Vermont, I’m good. That offers me a inhabitants.

Nury Martinez
So this map proper right here, Gil, what a part of this you don’t, what a part of it you don’t need? That is 1.

Gil Cedillo
CD 1.

Nury Martinez
You go to Chinatown?

Gil Cedillo
Yeah, Chinatown is my space.

Nury Martinez
So right here’s Pico. That is your base. I don’t need to communicate out of flip. So, Westlake and Pico-Union is your base, appropriate?

Gil Cedillo
Appropriate.

Nury Martinez
Chinatown I feel you’re good in. Elysian Park?

Gil Cedillo
Elysian Park. I’m OK.

Nury Martinez
As a result of that is labor’s map. So we’re attempting to determine what a part of this map are you not good with?

Gil Cedillo
I’m not good with something that provides extra Elysian Park to me. I’m not good with something that provides extra Highland Park or Eagle Rock. I don’t see the streets right here. So it’s laborious for me to say. Proper? With out seeing the streets right here.

Nury Martinez
OK.

Gil Cedillo
I don’t know what I acquired.

Nury Martinez
If we will get you the streets, and this a part of Highland Park is favorable for you, are you good with this map? As a result of that’s what I don’t perceive. I perceive your issues. I get that half. But when we will slice and cube this child as much as reduce you off the place you assume that favorable persons are in, deliver these in and ship the opposite half to the, to another person, I’m all for that. I simply must know what I’m working with, with this map. So what’s it on this map you’re not good with?

Gil Cedillo
I’ve to indicate this to Debby.

Nury Martinez
So can I get you this map in road kind?

Gil Cedillo
Yep.

Nury Martinez
OK. That’s what I must do. Can Ackley stroll Debby by a hyperlink on a pc right this moment to have a look at this map and discover out the place, the place the cutoff, what a part of Highland Park is OK? As a result of I don’t imagine that this map is dangerous for you.

Gil Cedillo
I perceive.

Nury Martinez
I imagine that they, we, reduce off the those who…

Gil Cedillo
There’s inhabitants, as Kevin talked about, after which there’s politics.

Nury Martinez
I perceive.

Gil Cedillo
And the politics are as vital to us because the inhabitants. So that you’re proper. The voters go to work in Lincoln Heights, and are available house to Lincoln Heights. However the activists, proper? They’re there 24/7. And so they don’t need us. I imply, the factor is, you’ve seen the conferences. It’s not ginned up. That is, they’re clamoring to go over there as a result of they’ve some thought of some Chicano Mecca of Lincoln Heights, El Sereno and Boyle Heights. It’s not us, however they need to go, go in peace, man, go. We don’t care.

Nury Martinez
And this map takes them out. No, we heard you, we heard you and so they’re gone. However I simply need to make certain what you’re asking for is de facto the fact with regards to the info and the way these persons are voting, the way it’s trending. As a result of it would sound good in idea that you really want this half. But when we return and take a look at the numbers of how they’re trending, and it’s much more Berners, much more white individuals, that doesn’t assist you.

Ron Herrera
As quickly as you guys…

Gil Cedillo
We all know that, that’s why we’re towards the northeast.

Nury Martinez
We will’t take all the northeast off, both. Who takes the remainder of the northeast? I imply, it’s problematic for everyone. So I feel we’re gonna should have some downside areas. All of us should eat a bit of little bit of shit, proper? It’s not going to be an ideal fucking map.

Gil Cedillo
Mitch is a darling, for that sort of individuals. And he’s—

Nury Martinez
OK, we’ll take a look at his district.

Gil Cedillo
I’m the one moreno that’s right here.

Nury Martinez
And he’s not gonna get an ideal district both. I’m simply attempting to get a majority of a superb district so that you just all can get reelected. We’re all going to should fucking face the actual fact—

Gil Cedillo
Debby can inform Ackley what our issues are. That’s it.

Nury Martinez
I imagine that’s occurred. I don’t imagine it’s getting by although, Gil. And this is the reason I’m kinda, I don’t, I don’t know the way else to convey this.

Gil Cedillo
Let me say this. Debby can inform Ackley what our issues are. After which all the pieces else we’re agnostic to. We’re agnostic. However I’ll let you know there are particular, sure people who find themselves deserving. And sure individuals who aren’t.

Kevin de León
You recognize, would it not be a nasty thought if Debby, Ackley after which Jennifer, for them three…

Nury Martinez
What time is the assembly tonight? I don’t even know. There’s one other fucking — I don’t assume they cease assembly. These fuckers. I’m so finished. Like, simply cease assembly ya de una vez (as soon as and for all), throw within the towel. Shut up. Thanks very a lot in your service. Actually, that’s what Krekorian is pressuring me to do, to — blow the entire fucking factor up.

Kevin de León
However I feel for perception-wise, to your level, is that they’re not going to do what we would like them to do, proper?

Nury Martinez
Simply transfer two maps ahead.

Kevin de León
In the event that they have been to tug, if we have been to tug like Fred Ali and I pull Sonja [Diaz], since you pull Fred Ali, I’ve to tug Sonja too.

Nury Martinez
Yo se (I do know). However it’s, it’s going to be issues for us as a result of these persons are, they’re so-called purists, y se creen que (they consider themselves like), you already know, they’re above all of it and so they know greater than you and I.

Kevin de León
We created a Frankenstein monster.

Nury Martinez
We’ve created a fucking — individuals like, they really feel like they’re answerable for themselves. You ain’t answerable for anyone.

Ron Herrera
Yeah. Took a lifetime of its personal.

Nury Martinez
Who the fuck do you assume is like, fucking this monkey?

Kevin de León
Yeah, took a lifetime of its personal. Which is a lesson.

Nury Martinez
And I’ve by no means labored underneath these sort of circumstances. Such as you’re, I’m of the opinion, proper, that if I get appointed to one thing…

Kevin de León
I take course.

Nury Martinez
Proper right here. What do you want me to do? As a result of I’m your, I’m your particular person. Like, what’s it? What would you like me to maneuver? And I’m clear about my job. These motherfuckers — I’m like…

Gil Cedillo
My man has taken care of me. Proper? However he’s created laborious work for everyone else.

Nury Martinez
I don’t know that that’s true, although, Gil.

Gil Cedillo
I’m happy. We’re happy with, I’m telling you, with Polanco, that’s the K2.5 and amended, we’re good with that. We will dwell with that. We expect it’s beneficiant to your man, Mitch. However we’re OK with that.

Nury Martinez
Why do you retain saying “my man”?

Ron Herrera
Properly, he’s my man.

Gil Cedillo
And your man. He’s Ron’s man.

Nury Martinez
Are you not cool with him any extra? I wanted a fucking placeholder. I don’t fucking want anyone to do my job. As a result of all these guys…

Gil Cedillo
I’m good with, look…

Nury Martinez
No due to each of you, however I do all of the work.

Gil Cedillo
Look how laborious I work to not let this be a compare-contrast to Echo Park.

Nury Martinez
I believed you guys have been OK? You sound such as you guys are OK. Like, fuck, man, you had me fooled. I’m like, oh yeah, ya se (now I do know). We name it the bromance, a COVID bromance. They go on COVID y ya (and now) they’re like complimenting one another. This or this. This or that. And I’m like, oh fuck, I didn’t get the memo.

Gil Cedillo
I distinguish the work and the individuals.

Nury Martinez
And now we’re again to love battling, so I don’t perceive.

Gil Cedillo
I’m not battling. Look how a lot I fought to hold him out of this.

Ron Herrera
He’s a, he’s a Teamster. I gotta assist household.

Nury Martinez
Who?

Ron Herrera
Mitch.

Nury Martinez
Is a Teamster?

Ron Herrera
Yeah. That’s why this man that’s working from HERE, I already informed Susan: It’s you towards us.

Nury Martinez
Generally you gotta deliver individuals a bit of nearer to attempt to management them a bit of bit, like form of like, calm the hell down. He, I get it. He’s a, he’s a diva. I perceive that.

Gil Cedillo
Look, look, right here’s the deal. If I had a main, I might not mess with this course of. Let it finish, after which allow us to resolve it. Proper? In order that’s what I informed Paul on Saturday.

Ron Herrera
However we gotta ballot like instantly.

[Snaps fingers.]

Councilmember Mitch O’Farrell had assist from labor chief Ron Herrera.

(Irfan Khan / Los Angeles Instances)

Ron Herrera
We gotta, as quickly as these items is finished, we gotta ballot.

[Snaps fingers.]

Nury Martinez
We gotta what?

Ron Herrera
Ballot, ballot within the districts. Particularly ones like with Gil, I need to ballot instantly.

Ridiculing Oaxacans in Koreatown

Kevin de León
Let me ask this, Gil. So should you go in additional into Ok-town, proper? Are these extra Latino voters?

Gil Cedillo
Yep, Ok-town’s a misnomer. It’s referred to as Ok-town, as a result of it’s acquired quite a lot of Koreans, nevertheless it’s all Latinos.

Kevin de León
So these are those you need to decide — that you just’d like to select up.

Gil Cedillo
Yeah.

Nury Martinez
However not all of Ok-town.

Kevin de León
Who do they belong to proper now?

Nury Martinez
Proper now they’re in 10 — all of it — and Nithya desires a play for Ok-town. I say that’s not gonna occur. As a result of I didn’t need a beef with Mark. So don’t beef with Mark, let him take, and that serves—

Kevin de León
However now that is the meat with Mark.

Nury Martinez
Pero, mira. (However look.) It serves us to not give her all of Ok-town. As a result of should you do, that solidifies her renters district and that isn’t a superb factor for any of us. You must hold her on the fence. You must make her work for it.

Gil Cedillo
Visualize this, Kevin. Alvarado, proper? Lafayette Park. Simply go down a bit of additional and…

Nury Martinez
Ok-town. ¿Que más? (What else?)

Gil Cedillo
Go to sixth, to Vermont.

Kevin de León
That’s the place like UFCW is at. That’s the place the Pipe Trades are at.

Nury Martinez
Shatto Place or Shatto. Lafayette Park. ¿Eso es Koreatown? (Is it Koreatown?)

Gil Cedillo
Yeah, that’s referred to as Ok-town.

Nury Martinez
I see quite a lot of little brief darkish individuals.

Gil Cedillo
Yeah, puro Oaxacans. Puro Oaxacan Koreans.

Nury Martinez
[Laughs.]

Gil Cedillo
Not even like Kevin, little ones.

Ron Herrera
Indios. My mother used to name them indios.

Nury Martinez
I used to be like, I don’t know the place these persons are from. Like I don’t know what village they got here out of, how they acquired right here. However—

Gil Cedillo
[inaudible] carrying sneakers.

Nury Martinez
¡Tan feos!

Ron Herrera
I get what we now have to do, proper? Simply therapeutic massage to create districts that profit you all.

Gil Cedillo
Yep.

Ron Herrera
And the long run. However we acquired to determine Mark’s seat too, you already know. That advantages you three.

Nury Martinez
If the African Individuals take a look at this, now that he might or is probably not suspended, I don’t know what’s going to occur. I feel he must be, however anyhow, if he goes away—

Kevin de León
You imply, you imply resign. Not suspended.

Nury Martinez
You’re proper. There may be, there’s a distinction.

Ron Herrera
If I could—

The ‘Wizard of Oz’ impact

Nury Martinez
If he resigns, maintain on, if he resigns and the African Individuals take a look at this as a hostile takeover as a result of he’s gone, we’ll should determine that shit out. As a result of politically, they’re going to return after us.

Kevin de León
Yeah, however can I say one thing proper now? And that is what I name the, the— este como se llama (what’s he referred to as), this man, este (this), the film? “The Wizard of Oz” impact. And what I imply by “The Wizard of Oz” impact is while you’re together with the curtain, it’s like this large voice. It sounds large—

Ron Herrera
An phantasm.

Kevin de León
It appears like there’s 1000’s. After which while you really pull the curtain, is that you just see the little wizard of Oz. You recognize what?

Nury Martinez
I’ve by no means watched the film.

Kevin de León
It’s the identical factor.

Nury Martinez
All proper.

Ron Herrera
It’s actual easy. You could have 100 individuals, proper? Fifty-two of them are Mexicanos. I really feel fairly good about it. I really feel fairly good about my probabilities of beating your ass.

Gil Cedillo
Twenty-five are for Black, and the 25 Blacks are shouting.

Kevin de León
However they shout like they’re 250, when there’s 100 of us and it sounds prefer it’s 10 of us.

Ron Herrera
However that, however that seat like, should you don’t, OK, should you, should you don’t take them out, then it hurts all incumbents, that the council’s corrupt proper? Anticipating corruption. OK, No. 1. No. 2, if any individual slides in proper, momentary or nonetheless you do it, proper? That particular person has to assist the three of you. Has to assist the three of you. And Danny.

Kevin de León
Know who desires to run for that seat?

Ron Herrera
Reggie.

Kevin de León
I can’t assist that Reggie. Reggie was over there with Karen. After I went, after he was fucking sweating his ass off—

Gil Cedillo
The one who will assist us is Heather Hutt.

Ron Herrera
Sure.

Nury Martinez
Mmm… I like Heather Hutt. She’s the one which wrote that — I’m sorry that, that ran towards Bryan Isaac.

Kevin de León
You recognize, who else?

Nury Martinez
We’d like a lady. An African American girl.

Kevin de León
You recognize who desires to run that seat? Irma Muñoz.

Nury Martinez
I don’t know who that’s.

Kevin de León
Mujeres de la Tierra.

Gil Cedillo
Yeah.

Kevin de León
And he or she’s married…

Gil Cedillo
To a Black dude!

Kevin de León
…to an African American and she or he lives up in Baldwin Hills and she or he lives down the road from Karen Bass. She texts me, she says, “I need to run for that seat.”

Ron Herrera
Look, you’ve simply gotta fight CoCo with that seat. That seat needs to be anti-CoCo.

Gil Cedillo
Yeah.

Ron Herrera
I can’t say that publicly, solely to you three.

Nury Martinez
¿Que más? (What else?)

Gil Cedillo
Heather and Irma. Jesus, these are like some individuals we will dwell with.

Nury Martinez
OK. ¿Que más?

Ron Herrera
Heather’s a private buddy.

Nury Martinez
Take a look at the boundaries in right here.

Gil Cedillo
Yeah, a bit of south, a bit of south. Debby will know. It’s a bit of south. It’s a bit of west.

Kevin de León
Convene Debby, Ackley and Jennifer.

Nury Martinez
So there’s nothing we will do with Polanco at the moment, proper, we will’t transfer him to push the opposite map and produce each maps to us? There’s nothing you are able to do there?

Kevin de León
I imply, on the very least herald each maps, so that provides us the selection. It provides—

Nury Martinez
It provides us choices to have a look at different shit as we’re attempting to determine this—

Kevin de León
If I’m a commissioner, I’m attempting to do my obligation by giving selections.

Gil Cedillo
Let’s discuss what Ron mentioned. The best way Ron described it’s the means it’s occurred, OK? You guys had individuals and your individuals went rogue. Proper? You had the president and the workers. You had the sequence of the conferences, was your man, and is now. They got here up with one map, one butcher sheet, proper? And the massive assembly, and everyone began engaged on the butcher sheet, like Ron mentioned. So a few individuals mentioned, “Yeah, let’s try this.” And after 4 hours, they mentioned, “OK, effectively,” after which any individual mentioned, “Properly, what concerning the different butcher sheet?” We introduced extra butcher sheet. They mentioned, “No, it’s finished right here. Work off of this.” And that’s how that occurred. That’s natural. That’s the way in which it occurred. I don’t find out about any conspiracies, any teams or something. They have been exhausted. And so they mentioned, let’s work off of this sheet, similar to Ron mentioned. A pair mentioned sure and a pair went alongside.

Kevin de León
That’s the K2.5.

Gil Cedillo
That’s the K2.5 then, together with your particular person. And together with your particular person, proper? In order that’s what they’re on. And now on the finish of, I don’t know, 40-50 hours of them sitting collectively, together with seven and a half on Saturday, Nithya will get up sooner or later and says, “Oh my God, I don’t know what occurred,” whereas her particular person…

Kevin de León
Jackie…

Gil Cedillo
…bought her out. Her particular person had one factor: I simply need this. And so they care about Nithya. I don’t know what occurred to Paul’s particular person. And so there’s a piece product there of which it retains getting the consensus. So then what occurred is it acquired political, and so they introduced in Huge Mouth Jackie. They introduced in, I don’t know why he introduced in Susan. Proper? Paul’s upset. And we’ll deal with it, proper, simply as we’ve mentioned, and Nithya introduced in Jackie. You continue to have your particular person, you continue to have Fred and you’ve got one other particular person, proper? Lengthy, brief is that they’re caught on that factor. So to alter that, it’s going to be laborious for them. It’s like the tip of negotiations and any individual says, I need, I do know we now have a tentative settlement, however I need to herald one other various. I perceive. It’s laborious, you may deliver an modification, or after the method earlier than the vote, we will make the modification. It’s simply that, it’s the method of negotiations. It’s the natural course of that takes place. That’s why I might warning you guys about altering your appointees, as a result of it’s going to look extra—

Kevin de León
We’re not going to do it.

Nury Martinez
Nah, we’re not going to do it.

Kevin de León
We’re going to have the dialog, however we’re not going to do it.

Gil Cedillo
And two maps will politicize it, too. We will politicize it as a result of we’re the political entities and that’s what—

Kevin de León
So long as we all know, see, I don’t thoughts politicizing it, amongst ourselves. As soon as we get the map after which sit down it’s—

Nury Martinez
It’s simply a lot simpler to get a couple of possibility.

Kevin de León
With no query, you already know, process-wise.

Nury Martinez
And that’s why I used to be asking, is there any room to determine that out with Polanco, however should you say there isn’t, there isn’t.

Kevin de León
You recognize what I’m going to do? I’m gonna do that, I’m gonna do that. I’m gonna do a 3rd ex parte with my, my member, and say, “Hey, you already know what, give us the democratic alternative of getting extra selections.”

Nury Martinez
That’s all I’m asking.

Kevin de León
So, I’m going to make that request of mine. If they’re keen to play, and if she’s keen to play and provides us two, if not, then it’s us—

Gil Cedillo
You’re not ever gonna date her.

[Laughter.]

Kevin de León
No.

Nury Martinez
Not your sort.

Kevin de León
Not my sort in any respect.

Ron Herrera
You could have the laborious copies and I’ll ship you guys digital ones.

Gil Cedillo
Can I take the laborious copy?

Nury Martinez
No, no you may’t.

Gil Cedillo
C’mon.

Ron Herrera
C’mon, you know the way it went.

Gil Cedillo
I don’t do issues, I’m not Augustino. He saved the one to 27 individuals, proper? He saved the one. Guess the place it was when [inaudible].

Nury Martinez
What are you taking? I take them after I’m dehydrated.

Kevin de León
It was since you’re nonetheless ingesting a ton of water. You get all bloated. Vas al baño siempre. (You at all times go to the restroom.)

Gil Cedillo
Did you’re employed with Stevens? Was he round?

Kevin de León
[inaudible] like 4 bottles of water.

Nury Martinez
I don’t have this taste, however I’m gonna take it. I’ve the lemon one. No, I’ve a bag.

Ron Herrera
I used to be on the fucking—

Instances workers author Salvador Hernandez contributed to this report.